# Meeting #92 - the mockery ## Attendees Local - @lp, @puck, @omni, @jonah, @vince, @jami, @p Remote - @jroast ## Agenda ### [Announcements (No discussion. Post-meeting breakout possible)](https://basement.woodbine.nyc/experiments#Currently-Running) - LP: Working on upgrading telepresence - Ordered a new conference mic - New Samsung phone we can hook up via HDMI ### Inside business #### Spending proposals - Does anyone have any expenses to document? (Reminder that we're trying to figure out what we're spending.) - @puck will create a place to drop receipts - @lp would like to take temp on spending $ to buy poles to continue building wire shelving along the wall. ##### Discussion lp: current shelves along the back were from pantry, we have shelving units but no poles jroast: what do we need to still put up on shelving lp: we're currently maxed out in the project but don't have a ton to put up. each pole is $20. 4x for $23 on Amazon. jonah: nice to have the space back there puck: is everything on shelving stuff we want to keep? lp: could get rid of stuff but don't have a ton of discrete space making. if a dust wall goes up we'll have to get rid of the shelving between the table and the woodshop **Decision: Table this discussion until we need.** ###### Sidebar jroast: if people come into the space and reorganize, we'd like them to vince: have a log of what has changed lp: i moved that white cabinet and then communicated it out #### Space Usage - Expansion of activities process - Discuss space takeover activities (e.g. woodshop or screen printing) - Discuss space usage etiquette (should we codify some guidelines?) - Should we set up a calendar? Does anyone want to own setting that up and/or maintaining it? ##### Discussion jroast: we need to solidify how new stuff comes up in the basement. for t-shirt stuff there are various chemicals and other things changing. for example, the dehumidifier is always on for a bunch of reasons but printing always turns it off. t-shirt printing came in with zero conversation and i feel we need more protocol / communication around this. some possible alleviation could be scheduling etc. jroast: i'd like @a to attend the meeting going forwards jonah: i don't like the idea of requiring people to approach the meeting to use the basement because lack of membership means there shouldn't be a barrier lp: this isn't about free use of the basement, it's about the expansion of silk screening/t-shirt printing p: this didn't come out of nowhere, this stuff has been discussed jroast: as it stands we need better comms omni: space is completely unused lots of the time and this is about scheduling of usage jroast: @a used to talk on signal but we've changed comms platforms jonah: lots of stuff is people's personal items in the space but unless we have structure i don't think we should have an approve/deny jroast: i was gone for a week and then came back and things are all over the place but space was changed. things need to be talked about puck: people need to mention if they are spreading out into other people's place. lp: @a and other folks (@puck) have requested and would like a calendar so they can know when basement is available llama: this is a growing pain and it's a good one. wood/coffee/printing etc. there are mitigations we have to pursue note: people use the space differently, maybe important to remind people that some activities are regular, recurring, and appreciate consistency. Just because you might come down once in a while and ##### Immediate Options * We could find a calendar thing we can all use e.g Google until we figure out self-hosting * Could we do a white board for right now in the space? **Decision: We're going to use a whiteboard with a protocol designed by @LP** #### Sewing station - Seems semi orphaned. How should we handle situations like this now and going forward ##### Discussion lp: Other than electronics I kind of don't think we should have a fixed table for projects jami: Have come down before and seen it as one person's only puck: Wasn't cleaned up post flood jroast: Will be cleaned up & torn down post-flood #### Layout Discussion - Quick discussion of work done and still to do - Gauge interest and plan for breakout group jonah: happy to let LP lead and go with that. big blocker is labor for moving stuff around lp: there have been ideas put forward but not many things have been brought up omni: it's easier to respond to physical changes puck: i think people just don't look at things. it's too much change for me to digest, need it broken down jonah: we could have a break out session and then go from there for people who care lp: unfortunately we've put ourselves into a difficult spot puck: also afraid of changes we cannot undo like e.g walling off the wood shop **Decision: Schedule a Wednesday meeting to this exclusively on 9/18.** #### Lighting - @jroast and @llama plan to replace some of the fluros jroast: Take down the lights and put in receptacles. Expected spend is ~$5. #### Task Management - Cryptpad use and sentiment jroast: Spreadsheet completely unused. Let's use its Kanban version. lp: Working on the telepresence but didn't actually update it. Is stuff in there actually in-progress. This is a culture problem, not tool problem. jroast: Agreed but still easier to use. p: Think we should link this into the meeting #### Comms proposal mock votes ##### Proposal 1 (@Jonah) - Signal all things with an index ###### Voting Votes: @jonah, @jami ##### Proposal 2 (@Jonah) - Signal for in-space activities - Hello World as-is - Matrix for projects, close #general Matrix **OR** Discord, exclusively ###### Voting Votes: @jonah, @omni, @puck, @jami, @cel(Matrix), @p, @LP(Discord) ##### Proposal 3 (@p) - the indecisive route - 1:1 bridging with all options ###### Voting Votes: @puck, @omni* ##### Proposal 4 (~LP) TL;DR: - Discord as central repo for all organizing - Signal “Hello World” continuing to serve same purpose. - Associated Signal groups like LoRa, Amateur Radio, 3DP support, Resin Support, Garden Krü, Sewing, to be left as-is or bundled in as their admins and comunity see fit. Maybe some day they’d be replicated via emergment behavior, but as of now their agency is to be respected. - Informed consent and anti closed-source/commercial rant to users re: platform in about or onboarding. https://basement.woodbine.nyc/comms-infra-proposal-LP ###### Voting Votes: @jonah, @LP, @omni, @p, @jroast ##### Proposal 5 (llama) - matrix as central repo - signal-matrix-discord bridge for all channels - post list of all channels and share it with woodbine general - firehose channel ###### Alternative Experiments - @llama: One mega-bridged channel for Discord/Matrix/Signal - @cel: want to talk about limited Signal bridging specifically