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# Meeting #92 - the mockery
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## Attendees
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Local - @lp, @puck, @omni, @jonah, @vince, @jami, @p
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Remote - @jroast
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## Agenda
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### [Announcements (No discussion. Post-meeting breakout possible)](https://basement.woodbine.nyc/experiments#Currently-Running)
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- LP: Working on upgrading telepresence
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- Ordered a new conference mic
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- New Samsung phone we can hook up via HDMI
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### Inside business
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#### Spending proposals
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- Does anyone have any expenses to document? (Reminder that we're trying to figure out what we're spending.)
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- @puck will create a place to drop receipts
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- @lp would like to take temp on spending $ to buy poles to continue building wire shelving along the wall.
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##### Discussion
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lp: current shelves along the back were from pantry, we have shelving units but no poles
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jroast: what do we need to still put up on shelving
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lp: we're currently maxed out in the project but don't have a ton to put up. each pole is $20. 4x for $23 on Amazon.
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jonah: nice to have the space back there
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puck: is everything on shelving stuff we want to keep?
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lp: could get rid of stuff but don't have a ton of discrete space making. if a dust wall goes up we'll have to get rid of the shelving between the table and the woodshop
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**Decision: Table this discussion until we need.**
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###### Sidebar
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jroast: if people come into the space and reorganize, we'd like them to
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vince: have a log of what has changed
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lp: i moved that white cabinet and then communicated it out
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#### Space Usage
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- Expansion of activities process
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- Discuss space takeover activities (e.g. woodshop or screen printing)
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- Discuss space usage etiquette (should we codify some guidelines?)
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- Should we set up a calendar? Does anyone want to own setting that up and/or maintaining it?
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##### Discussion
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jroast: we need to solidify how new stuff comes up in the basement. for t-shirt stuff there are various chemicals and other things changing. for example, the dehumidifier is always on for a bunch of reasons but printing always turns it off. t-shirt printing came in with zero conversation and i feel we need more protocol / communication around this. some possible alleviation could be scheduling etc.
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jroast: i'd like @a to attend the meeting going forwards
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jonah: i don't like the idea of requiring people to approach the meeting to use the basement because lack of membership means there shouldn't be a barrier
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lp: this isn't about free use of the basement, it's about the expansion of silk screening/t-shirt printing
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p: this didn't come out of nowhere, this stuff has been discussed
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jroast: as it stands we need better comms
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omni: space is completely unused lots of the time and this is about scheduling of usage
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jroast: @a used to talk on signal but we've changed comms platforms
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jonah: lots of stuff is people's personal items in the space but unless we have structure i don't think we should have an approve/deny
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jroast: i was gone for a week and then came back and things are all over the place but space was changed. things need to be talked about
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puck: people need to mention if they are spreading out into other people's place.
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lp: @a and other folks (@puck) have requested and would like a calendar so they can know when basement is available
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llama: this is a growing pain and it's a good one. wood/coffee/printing etc. there are mitigations we have to pursue
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note: people use the space differently, maybe important to remind people that some activities are regular, recurring, and appreciate consistency. Just because you might come down once in a while and
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##### Immediate Options
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* We could find a calendar thing we can all use e.g Google until we figure out self-hosting
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* Could we do a white board for right now in the space?
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**Decision: We're going to use a whiteboard with a protocol designed by @LP**
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#### Sewing station
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- Seems semi orphaned. How should we handle situations like this now and going forward
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##### Discussion
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lp: Other than electronics I kind of don't think we should have a fixed table for projects
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jami: Have come down before and seen it as one person's only
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puck: Wasn't cleaned up post flood
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jroast: Will be cleaned up & torn down post-flood
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#### Layout Discussion
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- Quick discussion of work done and still to do
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- Gauge interest and plan for breakout group
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jonah: happy to let LP lead and go with that. big blocker is labor for moving stuff around
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lp: there have been ideas put forward but not many things have been brought up
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omni: it's easier to respond to physical changes
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puck: i think people just don't look at things. it's too much change for me to digest, need it broken down
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jonah: we could have a break out session and then go from there for people who care
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lp: unfortunately we've put ourselves into a difficult spot
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puck: also afraid of changes we cannot undo like e.g walling off the wood shop
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**Decision: Schedule a Wednesday meeting to this exclusively on 9/18.**
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#### Lighting
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- @jroast and @llama plan to replace some of the fluros
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jroast: Take down the lights and put in receptacles. Expected spend is ~$5.
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#### Task Management
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- Cryptpad use and sentiment
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jroast: Spreadsheet completely unused. Let's use its Kanban version.
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lp: Working on the telepresence but didn't actually update it. Is stuff in there actually in-progress. This is a culture problem, not tool problem.
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jroast: Agreed but still easier to use.
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p: Think we should link this into the meeting
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#### Comms proposal mock votes
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##### Proposal 1 (@Jonah)
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- Signal all things with an index
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###### Voting
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Votes: @jonah, @jami
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##### Proposal 2 (@Jonah)
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- Signal for in-space activities
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- Hello World as-is
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- Matrix for projects, close #general
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Matrix **OR** Discord, exclusively
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###### Voting
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Votes: @jonah, @omni, @puck, @jami, @cel(Matrix), @p, @LP(Discord)
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##### Proposal 3 (@p) - the indecisive route
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- 1:1 bridging with all options
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###### Voting
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Votes: @puck, @omni*
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##### Proposal 4 (~LP)
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TL;DR:
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- Discord as central repo for all organizing
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- Signal “Hello World” continuing to serve same purpose.
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- Associated Signal groups like LoRa, Amateur Radio, 3DP support, Resin Support, Garden Krü, Sewing, to be left as-is or bundled in as their admins and comunity see fit. Maybe some day they’d be replicated via emergment behavior, but as of now their agency is to be respected.
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- Informed consent and anti closed-source/commercial rant to users re: platform in about or onboarding.
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https://basement.woodbine.nyc/comms-infra-proposal-LP
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###### Voting
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Votes: @jonah, @LP, @omni, @p, @jroast
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##### Proposal 5 (llama)
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- matrix as central repo
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- signal-matrix-discord bridge for all channels
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- post list of all channels and share it with woodbine general
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- firehose channel
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###### Alternative Experiments
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- @llama: One mega-bridged channel for Discord/Matrix/Signal
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- @cel: want to talk about limited Signal bridging specifically |
